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Fall Out Boy
sourcesWikipedia — Fall Out Boy (lead only) · Alternative Press (2005) — Cleanliness, Godliness and the Sad Truth In-Between (band origin, Stump/Wentz backstory) · TIME (2013) — Q&A · Rolling Stone (2019) — Flashback · The Cheat Sheet (2022) — Fall Out Boy's Cover of Michael Jackson's 'Beat It' Became a Hit by Accident (Stump's 2008 soundcheck quote) · FasterLouder (2013) — In The Firing Line · Wikipedia — The Get Up Kids (citation trail for the 2005 Alternative Press oral-history quote, print-only, no online mirror)
Fall Out Boy came together in Chicago's hardcore scene in 2001, when bassist Pete Wentz, a veteran of bands like Racetraitor and Arma Angelus, recruited singer-guitarist Patrick Stump, the one member who spent his time alone with a guitar instead of at shows. Joe Trohman and Andy Hurley filled out the lineup. The gamble was writing hook-heavy pop songs inside hardcore kids' bodies: their 2005 breakthrough 'From Under the Cork Tree' and its single 'Sugar, We're Goin Down' carried wordy, confessional lyrics and gang-vocal choruses into the mainstream. Stump's soul-schooled voice later pulled the band toward R&B and arena-pop, and after a 2009-2013 hiatus they returned at stadium scale. The method never changed: punk urgency married to a pop instinct almost nobody else in their scene had.
the sound in question
2005
Sugar, We're Goin DownFall Out Boy
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Green Day1990s–2000s · Punk rock / Pop punk / Alternative rock
Patrick Stump traces it to one afternoon skipping class: a friend had a cassette of Green Day's 'Dookie,' and hearing it felt instantly, he said, like 'this is mine' — the first record that matched the noise he knew with real songcraft. Pete Wentz has said the album alone kept him from 'heading down' a worse path. The debt turned physical in 2007: on tour in Manila, Fall Out Boy played Green Day's 'Basket Case' live, note for note, in front of a crowd an ocean from Chicago.
listen: upstream & heresource: Rolling Stone (2015) — Fall Out Boy's Green Day Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tribute (Stump's Dookie story) ↗
1994
Basket CaseGreen Day
2007
Basket Case (live cover)Fall Out Boy
listen forGreen Day's original 'Basket Case' rides fast, downstroked power chords under a bratty, syllable-stuffed vocal built to be shouted back by a room. Fall Out Boy's 2007 Manila cover reproduces it almost chord for chord, tempo and phrasing intact, the same nervous, confessional energy Stump and Wentz have both credited with making them want a band at all. Listen for how little separates the two versions — a tribute paid at full volume, not in the abstract.
Michael Jackson1980s · Pop / R&B / Funk
Patrick Stump has folded Michael Jackson into nearly everything he's made, once naming the instrumental break on 'Thriller' as the song that 'affected me the most profoundly.' The connection turned literal in 2008: Fall Out Boy learned 'Beat It' by accident, running the riff at soundcheck until it became a set staple. 'We never really planned this to happen,' Stump said. 'We figured we'd record it and put it out with our live DVD.' It hit No. 19 on the Hot 100, John Mayer's guitar solo included.
listen: upstream & heresource: SPIN (2011) — My Favorite Things ↗
1982
Beat ItMichael Jackson
2008
Beat It (feat. John Mayer)Fall Out Boy
listen forMichael Jackson built 'Beat It' around a hard-rock guitar riff dropped into a dance groove — a genre collision Stump has pointed to as proof a pop-punk band could rightfully claim the song. Fall Out Boy's cover keeps that riff nearly intact but pushes Mayer's guitar solo harder and Stump's voice higher and rawer than Jackson's original, punk muscle grafted onto the same funk backbone.
The Get Up Kids1990s–2000s · Emo / Midwest emo / Pop-punk
When Alternative Press asked Fall Out Boy's Pete Wentz to name the band's blueprint in 2005, he didn't hedge: 'Fall Out Boy would not be a band if it were not for The Get Up Kids,' he said, adding that kids needed 'a How To Be a Pop-Punk Kid starter kit' crediting the Kansas City band by name. Wentz and his bandmates came up through the same turn-of-the-2000s Midwest emo scene The Get Up Kids helped define, watching them turn plain heartbreak into an anthem.
listen: upstream & heresource: NME (2009) — Did The Get Up Kids Really Invent Emo? (corroborates Wentz's Get Up Kids testimony) ↗
1997
Ten MinutesThe Get Up Kids
2003
Grand Theft Autumn / Where Is Your Boy?Fall Out Boy
listen forCue The Get Up Kids' 'Ten Minutes,' from the 1997 album Wentz pointed to directly, against Fall Out Boy's early single 'Grand Theft Autumn/Where Is Your Boy?' Both ride chiming, chord-driven guitars under a vocal that cracks open on the chorus, turning a bruised teenage complaint into something built for a whole room to shout back at once, the same trick Fall Out Boy leaned on across their entire debut record.